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QUIZ ANSWER # 118

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Last Sunday I posted the photo below which was taken this month in Rhyl by Yours Truly. The question: In what road/street was I standing?


The answer: Kinmel Street.
I was looking down the alley between Edward Hughes solicitors (on your left) and the offices of Welsh Assembly member Ann Jones.

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Also posted was this photo taken not long ago by Dave Williams. Among the various markings is the phrase monitoring wellThe question: Would you find this item to the east, to the south or to the west of High Street?


The answer: To the west.
It is one of several on the footpath between Foryd Bridge and Marine Lake. In Rhyl you can't get much further west!

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Scoring 1 win by sending correct answers to both questions: Dilys Bagnall and The Great Gareth.

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QUIZ QUESTION # 119

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Above is the exterior of a Rhyl building photographed a few weeks ago by Yours Truly. The door bears the number 2.
The question: In what road/street would you find this building?

Below is a room inside a Rhyl building photographed during or before World War 1 (1914-18).

The question: In what road/street would you find this building?


Click on any picture to see a bigger version.


The 1970s picture below is NOT RHYL but not a million miles away.
The question: Where is it?


Your quizmaster is feeling generous this week so you score 1 win for each correct answer, a maximum total of 3 wins!

You have until the end of Saturday 28th Nov 2015 to send your entry.
Second tries not accepted.
The result will be published on Sun 29th Nov 2015 around Midday.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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PRESS MY HAT IN

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During school days Press My Hat In is what I used to call Prestatyn which is 4 miles I mean 6 kilometres away from Rhyl and not a town I know well.


The undated image above has a comforting Rhyl echo in the form of William Roberts coal merchants.

Click on any picture to see a bigger version.

Summer visitors tend to regard Rhyl and Prestatyn as almost the same place. From Prestatyn Holiday Camp (the one with the tower) here is a shot of the ballroom on a card postmarked 1959:


What lovely dresses and suits! Here, have a couple of badges:


Recently Prestatyn High Street was shortlisted in the Great British High Street contest, in the coastal category. Below: an early picture looking up the street and a later pic looking downwards:


Who remembers The Royal Lido ballroom and swimming pool complex? This is a card postmarked 1974:


Anybody for Y Ffrith? The first of the following is a card postmarked 1937 and is interesting for its changing rooms/tents:


Yes I know, Rhuddlan Borough Council ruined the Ffrith. Don't start.

Since then Prestatyn has overtaken Rhyl as a regional shopping centre and the underlying rivalry has re-surfaced and made this 1995 soccer programme look prophetic:


The above was compiled by Ian Johnson. In 2000-2005, Ian and I worked side by side at Rhyl Community Agency. He was producing programmes while I was writing Rhyl history essays.


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The following references are added here for indexing purposes: Trustee Savings Bank TSB Prestatyn, Prestatyn Town Football Club FC.

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WED 2nd DEC 2015 UPDATE: Dave Williams writes that Ian Johnson died about four years ago, circumstances not known.

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QUIZ ANSWER # 119

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Last Sunday I posted the above exterior of a Rhyl building photographed

a few weeks before by Yours Truly. The door bears the number 2.
The question: In what road/street would you find this building?
The answer: Millbank Road.
At the Vale Road end, opposite the back yard of Caskeys pub.

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Also posted was a room inside a Rhyl building photographed during or before World War 1 (1914-18).
The question: In what road/street would you find this building?
The answer: Bedford Street.
Pictured is the dining hall of the Men's Convalescent Institution which was a Red Cross hospital during WW1:


Click on the card to read more easily.


Here is the exterior photographed a few days ago by Yours Truly:



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Also posted was the 1970s picture below which is NOT RHYL but not a million miles away.
The question: Where is it?
The answer: Llandrillo yn Rhos aka Rhos-on-Sea.
Just t'other side of Colwyn Bay.


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Scoring 1 win for each correct answer: Dilys Bagnall 1, Sue Handley 1, Jane Shuttle 1, The Great Gareth 2, Richard & Ceri Swinney 2.

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The following reference is added here for indexing purposes: Watkins Llanfwrog.

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QUIZ QUESTION # 120

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Above is a Rhyl railway photo taken we know not when (not very recently). On the far right there is a street.
The question: What is the name of the street?

Below is a plaque inscribed Glan Dyffryn photographed a few days ago by Yours Truly.


And here is a wider shot of it:


The question: What is the name of the street?

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You score 1 win for each correct answer, a maximum total of 2 wins!

You have until the end of Saturday 5th Dec 2015 to send your entry.
Second tries not accepted.
The result will be published on Sun 6th Dec 2015 around Midday.


Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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THE TABLE IS READY

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The Royal Alexandra Hospital, Marine Drive, Rhyl has cropped up a few times in this blog. You would find the previous references and pictures under the label HOSPITALS on your left at the top of this page.

The image above showing the operating theatre is dated circa 1908 (more likely before that date than after). Note the small size of the operating table - at that time The Alex was a children's hospital.

On the mantelpiece the bottle nearest to the camera is labelled Carbolic 1 in 20, and the one in the middle is Boracic. These were antiseptics.

At that time electric lighting would have been unlikely. The fireplace seems to be tiled over, and there is no visible form of heating. The nurse is well wrapped up!

[Generally, it was believed that cool temperatures were more beneficial.]


Above: the building is shown without its east wing which was added in 1908. The presence of the town crest bottom right leads me to believe this may be the first ever postcard of The Alex, commemorating the official opening in 1902.

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GIFT SUGGESTIONS

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Gift shops, markets, internet sites, antique shops and junk shops are good places to find Rhyl things to collect or give away as presents.

How about badges for the anorak? Here we have a Rhyl Scooter Club Rally, Rhyl & District Angling Association, Rhyl Football Club aka 'The Lilywhites', Rhyl F.C. Supporters' Association (RSA) and couple of rarities: one from Eisteddfod Genedlaethol Cymru the Welsh National Eisteddfod in Rhyl 1953, and an old badge showing Rhyl Pavilion:


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This Rhyl crested Norwegian-style beer bowl with a horse's head at each end seems a perfect present for people that don't know whether they are coming or going:


No? Well, how about a Rhylephant?



And for that really special someone - nudge nudge - what could be more agreeable than an old slotmachine manufactured by Parkers Automatic Supplies of Rhyl? 


Click on the machine to see in the background a drawing incorporating elements of Marine Lake and Ocean Beach Fun Fairs with name checks for Billy Williams, Arthur (who's he?) and the Webbers.

That dates it as 1950s/60s even though the art deco style suggests that the cabinet may have been made a couple of decades earlier. Arcade and fun fair items are subject to recycling from time to time.


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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

See my Rhyl videos on YouTube:
Only the videos marked RhylTime are mine! 

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SYRIA LIFE

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Copyright in the picture above belongs to Reuters News Agency.

Last night, at the same time as a big majority of Members of Parliament were saying yes to airstrikes on Syria, the Daily Post’s online opinion poll of readers stood as follows:


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During the 1970s I was living in London when Irish republican groups were leaving bombs in public places including the Underground. It was a very scary time and went on for years.

Those groups did not attack Wales – they knew we had no power to bring about the changes they wanted. The political wing of the republicans, Sinn Féin, is now part of government in both parts of Ireland.

In the short term, last night’s decision in Parliament will surely provoke IS. Hopefully they too will see that the UK power base is in England and leave us alone.

In the long term, war war must give way to jaw jaw. It always does.

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QUIZ ANSWER # 120

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Last Sunday I posted this Rhyl railway photo taken we know not when (not very recently). On the far right there is a street. The question: What is the name of the street?

The answer: West Kinmel Street.

Also posted was the following plaque inscribed Glan Dyffryn photographed a few days before by Yours Truly. The question: What is the name of the street?
The answer: West Kinmel StreetAgain!


Glan Dyffryn translates as Clean Valley. The plaque is opposite the car park of West Rhyl Primary Care Centre (the new Clarence House) which must be one of Rhyl's ugliest buildings.

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Scoring 1 win for each correct answer: Richard & Ceri Swinney 2, Dilys Bagnall 1, Jane Shuttle 2, The Great Gareth 2, Sue Handley 2.

In this second series of the quiz, Gareth holds the lead with 58 wins, Jane has 52, Richard & Ceri have 49, Sue 37 and Dilys 21. All these scores are above-average. Everybody is welcome to join in. We have quite a few occasional players!

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RHYL LIFE

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You are busy over Christmas and New Year, and so am I, so this blog is suspended until Sunday 3rd January 2016. Quiz players will receive an email reminder on that day. If you would like to have a reminder as well, do let me know:

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

And while you commit indiscretions at staff parties, and over-indulge in everything, and sing carols and hymns out of tune, I will be rigorously checking old blog posts and walking the streets trying to think up quiz questions for 2016.
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CATCHING UP

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The photo below was taken on Saturday 12th December 2015 by Yours Truly. It was the opening day of a new cafe in White Rose Centre, High Street, Rhyl. The cafe is named Thyme Out and you would find it sandwiched (sorry!) between RhylCreate crafts/art shop and the Thomas Cook travel agency:


The proprietors of Thyme Out are Scott & Diane Bebbington; they live near Conwy and have previously operated a cafe in Llandudno. My pal Jill, a serious member of Rhyl's cafe society, showed early interest.


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Also in December a branch of Scrivens opticians arrived in High Street between W.H. Smith and the entrance to White Rose Centre, in the unit recently vacated by phones4U:


Inscribed in the stonework high above the Scrivens is Victoria Buildings 1821. This is suspected to be the site of  (or close to the site of) one of Rhyl's first hotels: Burke's Hotel, proprietor Dominic Burke. 

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Above: Did you know that we have 'kitesurfing' in Rhyl? In this sea sport you zip along on a surfboard while hanging on to a kite. Rhyl is ideal for this. The headquarters (school and club house) is at the side of the Sun Centre. More information here:

http://www.prokitesurfing.co.uk/

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During the Christmas/New Year break all 202 of last year's blog posts were checked. Some of these and many older posts were re-edited in some way with text or pictures replaced or added. I am still keen to track down factual errors in dates and in the spelling of names & places so do let me know if you spot any!


Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk


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QUIZ QUESTION # 121

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We are on the last leg of the quiz (Questions # 121 to # 160) and some players are suffering brain strain so let's have just one question per week for a while, starting with this . . .


The question: Was this photo taken before or after 1950?

Click on the picture to see a bigger version.

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You have until the end of Saturday 9th January 2016 to send your entry.
Second tries not accepted.
The result will be published on Sunday 10th Jan 2016 around Midday.
Don't worry if there is a delay. I am in the process of switching to a new Internet service provider.


Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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HIGHER PURCHASE

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As I have said before, Rhyl is a purpose-built resort. (This would have been a daft place to build a town for any other reason.) Therefore occasional waves of public investment in tourism are to be expected and welcomed.  

Towards the end of 2015, Denbighshire County Council announced that a private company named Neptune Developments would create new things on our promenade. A Travelodge hotel was mentioned, a leisure complex, and so on.

No private company in its right mind would invest huge sums of its own money in Rhyl after the decades of Labour Party domination have left the resort’s reputation in tatters. No, the deal must be a hybrid affair.

Neptune and Denbighshire have done business together before. Neptune was behind the refurbishment and extension of the present council offices in Ruthin, and Denbighshire paid off the company in instalments. Put simply, it was like a hire purchase agreement.


Before we natives get carried away with enthusiasm about the proposed promenade works, we should be told about the financial implications for the public purse in the long term – including maintenance costs.

And there is something odd about the timing of all this.

Welsh Government says that the counties of Denbighshire and Conwy are to be merged. This would create a completely new authority that might not like the Denbighshire-Neptune deal.

Is the purpose of the deal to complicate and even delay the merger plans? In the absence of financial and other background information, Rhyl Life can give Neptune's proposed works only a cautious welcome.

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FLASHBACK #13

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We continue the Flashback series with this soccer photo provided by a reader named Gerry who has contributed to this blog before.
Click on the photo to see a bigger version.

The following comments are from June Turner:

"The picture was taken outside the changing rooms in Coronation Gardens. It shows Rhyl Social Centre Football team. My husband Roy started the Social Centre in 1948. It was for 18 to 25 year olds. Dr. Hadyn Williams the county council's Director of Education, gave Roy permission to use Ysgol Emmanuel for the Social Centre's meetings and dances.

“In the photo on far left is Bill Hughes the trainer. (He was sometimes known as 'Bill Sticks' aka Bill the Barber whose shop was in Vale Road, Rhyl – Ed.)

“Players standing in back row (left to right): Don’t know, Brian Fossick, Desmond Edie, Bill Jones the goalkeeper in dark sweater, and then Norman Jones who was the son of Councillor Norman Jones, Vale Road, and married Dorothy Pepperday. At the end is Clive Williams who worked for Roy in his flooring business.

“Of the players sitting in front row, 2nd from the right is Vernon (Curley) Williams who was Clive's brother.

“The Social Centre team played in the Dyserth League against such teams as Mostyn YMCA and Rhyl Labour Club. Roy played at half-back position but was unavailable on the day the photo was taken.”

My thanks to June and Roy Turner for all that information!

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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

See my Rhyl videos on YouTube:
Only the videos marked RhylTime are mine!

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CLWYD ALYN FACES FLAK

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Towards the end of 2015 Denbighshire council decided to cut back on the element of housing benefit that relates to Careline, an emergency call service installed in the homes of elderly tenants of Pennaf/Clwyd Alyn and possibly other housing associations.


Clwyd Alyn, despite being one of the biggest sponges of public money in North Wales, rounded on its elderly tenants demanding that they should make up the difference by paying more than £110 a year.


In the ensuing row it came to light that Clwyd Alyn had been charging for Careline even in cases where tenants did not have a telephone landline on which Careline operates - and therefore they had no way of accessing the service.


In the short term Clwyd Alyn should make refunds in respect of those people, and then reorganise its finances so as to avoid twisting the arms of its comparatively poor tenants (off whose backs the company has made a fortune over the years).

In the longer term the value of Careline needs to be re-assessed. Some tenants ignore the service and contact the emergency services directly believing it is quicker to do so - because a delay could be fatal.

Some years ago I collapsed with a painful kidney infection, called Careline and heard a voice at the other end say, "It's Sunday night. Can you wait 'til tomorrow and see your GP?"

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DAVID SIMMONDS
David Simmonds of the Labour Party, a member of Rhyl Town Council for Brynhedydd Ward and county councillor for Rhyl East (and ex-Mayor of Rhyl) has been charged with rape.
Read the story in Daily Post:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/former-north-wales-mayor-charged-10672788?ptnr_rid=381515&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter_News_smallteaser_Text_Story2

ALBERT GUBAY
Albert Gubay the Rhyl-born entrepreneur and mastermind behind the Kwik Save grocery shops and supermarkets, and Total Fitness keep fit centres, has passed away aged 87:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/albert-gubay-who-founded-kwik-10696149

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FLASHBACK #14

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This unposted card of East Parade Gardens on the prom is thought to be from late 1950s. The tall building on your left is Colet House which was then South Yorkshire Miner's Convalescent Home (now St. David's Residential Home).

Furthest left, the small white building was a place of refreshment known as the Tea House. According to Bill Ellis' book 'The Spirit Of Rhyl', a visitor there was the musician and composer Sir Edward German.

Sir Edward died in 1936 and the Tea House passed away in 1960s.

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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

See my Rhyl videos on YouTube:
Only the videos marked RhylTime are mine!

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QUIZ ANSWER # 121

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Last Sunday I posted the above image.

Click on it to see a bigger version.

The question: Was this photo taken before or after 1950?


The answer: After 1950The biggest clue is the Woolworth building (now B&M). It was constructed in 1955.

Scoring 1 win for correct answer: Dilys Bagnall, Richard & Ceri Swinney, occasional player Robert Scott, and The Great Gareth.


Gareth draws our attention to some interesting old pix of Rhyl taken from the air. They are on the website of the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments in Wales. Here is an example showing railway station, town centre and pier:


Click on the following link to view them all:
http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/33112/images/RHYL/

Thanks, Gareth!

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QUIZ QUESTION # 122

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Above is a photo taken in December 2015 by Yours Truly.

The question: Where in Rhyl would you find this building?

You have until the end of Saturday 16th January 2016 to send your entry.
Second tries not accepted.
The result will be published on Sunday 17th Jan 2016 around Midday.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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THE GREAT WAR REVISITED

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The Great War, later known as First World War/World War 1, was fought overseas. Around here local people would not have known what a forlorn and muddy bloodbath it was. Young men were urged to join up and fight; those who had moral objections were branded as cowards.


Nearest army training camp to Rhyl (during WW1 and WW2) was Kinmel Park Camp near Bodelwyddan. The above photo of the camp was taken by Rhyl photographer Rae Pickard presumably before or after the war. For security reasons photography would not have been allowed on military bases during the hostilities.

The camp looks a pleasant sort of place but conditions were not exactly comfortable if we are to believe the following:
Click on any picture to see a bigger version.


This half-joking card would have been for sale in various locations in UK with the name of the camp changed to suit - worth Tommy's penny for a good larf.

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The card below is dated June 1916 and shows a group at the Red Cross Hospital (aka Men's Convalescent Home) in Bedford Street, Rhyl:


Here is the back of the card:


It is from Grace Brown (presumably a nurse) writing home. She says that the card cost 3d (three pennies) which probably went to Red Cross funds. 
"Dear Mama, What do you think of this? I think it has only just lately been taken because Frank is not on it - Can you find Stiff Neck, Scotty and Flying Boy - We have just had a very nice sergeant about sending stuff to Kinmel. Love Grace."

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Here is a photo hand-dated 1917 of Rhyl County School Cadet Corps. The County School was forerunner of Rhyl Grammar School now Rhyl High:


And below is a rarity that was on sale last year on Internet - hence the seller's logo across the middle. It shows some Belgian refugees being welcomed to Rhyl in 1914:


As we saw recently in Syria, war displaces large numbers of people who uproot themselves and search for a safer place. Drought, famine, war, persecution, failing economies – the history of the world is the history of mass movements of refugees.

No doubt that is how we all came to be where we are.

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The following reference is added here for indexing purposes: Brown Attleborough Nuneaton.

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PUB TALK

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The Liverpool Arms in Wellington Road (to your left of Sidoli's Ice Cream Parlour) had been closed for a while until it was re-opened this month and renamed the Wellington:


Welsh Government has been putting public money (our money) into re-opening pubs in various places including Rhyl disregarding the fact that alcohol kills about 1,000 people every year in Wales and makes many thousands more ill enough to require NHS treatment.

Whether this particular re-opening was subsidised I know not - but, in any case, there are three other pubs operating on opposite side of Wellington Road. They are: The North (formerly North Wales Inn), The Sun Inn and The Royal Oak:




The photos above were taken on dull, cold and rainy New Year's Day 2016 by Fred Burns the frozen photographer.

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New research shows any amount of alcohol can increase the risk of cancer - there is no such thing as a safe level of drinking the stuff. That is the opinion of the UK's health chiefs. You have been warned!

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NOTTINGHAM ARMS
Recently I received an email from Mr. K. Parry asking where in Wellington Road the Nottingham Arms was. My guess would be Nos. 48-54 where the UC Bed Bargains store is now, nearly opposite the junction with Elwy Street - as shown below.


Photo by Yours Truly.


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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

Don't forget my YouTube channel featuring Rhyl videos and slideshows. The channel is named RhylTime. Click here to see RhylTime's Top Ten:

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