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QUIZ ANSWER # 156

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Last Sunday I posted a photo, probably 1950s, of a place in Queen Street. The question: What is the name of the place?

The answer: OAP Friendship Club.
Here is the photo with missing words restored:


The club was founded in 1952 by Councillor/Alderman P.T. (Phil) Trehearn in upstairs premises at 72 Queen Street and operated for well over forty years. Last time I looked it was Flames Steakhouse & Bar.


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Second question was about a card posted in 1979. The name of a house had been hidden by black dots. The question: What is the missing name?
The answer: Bryn Estyn.
Here is the image with missing words restored:


Bryn Estyn, 85 Russell Road, these days is a privately owned care home managed by Karin Witherspoon.


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Scoring 1 win for Friendship Club and/or 1 win for Bryn Estyn:
Sue Handley 2, Jane Shuttle 2, The Great Gareth 2, Richard & Ceri Swinney 1, and Dilys Bagnall 2.

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Dilys has supplied snaps taken circa 1950 showing General Post Office (GPO) workers in Rhyl. The first shows them assembled outside the main post office in High Street, opposite where Boots chemist is now:


Dilys' father Arthur Hughes is seated at the end on your left. Standing far left is Alf Murray.

Click on any picture to see a bigger version.

The following was taken outside the sorting office which was at the rear of the post office. Arthur Hughes is on your left:


Many families in Rhyl and district have GPO connections so these photos may help with family history. Thanks, Dilys.

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No longer with us is the sex shop I mean licensed adult centre at 43-47 Queen Street. Our permission-givers obviously thought its location close to the Children's Village was appropriate. I didn't.

In High Street the camping shop Granite Outdoors at No. 64 has folded its tents and gone. The shop had far too many sale promotions and cluttered the pavement with displays but was marginally better than no shop.

A survey says more than 1 in 5 Rhyl shops are empty. See Daily Post:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/ghost-town-warning-one-five-11910657

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QUIZ QUESTION # 157

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This week we have the uppermost part of two commercial buildings in Rhyl, photographed a few days ago by Yours Truly. In each case
The question is: What is the name of the business underneath?

A:
 B:

You need correct answers to A and B to score 1 win.

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You have until the end of Saturday 1st October 2016 to send your entry. The result will appear on this blog next day around noon.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk


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LLANELWY / ST. ASAPH # 2

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Not long ago my pal Jill emigrated from Rhyl to St. Asaph. To mark the event here are a few more pix. The first is a shot of my alma mater Ysgol Ramadeg Llanelwy / St.  Asaph Grammar School on the Upper Denbigh Road, circa 1920 (now Ysgol Glan Clwyd):


No, indeed I would not support the return of grammar schools – not that there is even a remote chance of that happening in Wales.

Further up the Upper Denbigh Road, set back in several acres of grounds is Bryn Asaph built in 1830, a six-bedroom property used at times as a convalescent home. This card was posted in 1976:


Cards of St. Asaph Cathedral are not rare but the following is collectible because the inset shows Bishop Alfred George Edwards (1848-1937) a Bishop of St. Asaph who became the first Archbishop of Wales:


That monument like a little tower on your left is a memorial of the translation of The Bible into Welsh by an earlier Bishop of St. Asaph, William Morgan, who translated it from Greek and Hebrew.

Click on any picture to see a bigger version.

Here is a magic lantern slide of Cathedral nave looking East circa 1900:


The High Street looked like this around 1930 . . .


. . . and like this in early 1960s:


Here is a battered old pic of Y Llew Goch / The Red Lion in Gemig Street which long ago ceased to be a pub:


The Old Deanery in Dean's Walk was never just a pub. Around 1910 when the following was taken, it was a rather swish hotel with waiters in penguin suits etc. These days it is a care home:


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Pictured above is Bodlonfa Hall in Rhuallt, which used to operated by Merseyside Youth Hostels Ltd. The card is postmarked 1953. Bodlonfa Hall is now a B&B.

Below is Brynbella in Tremeirchion, a 1790s villa with lovely gardens. The name Brynbella is an odd fusion of Welsh and Italian words. The pic is from a Sotheby's auction in 1994:


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http://rhyl-life.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Z%20-%20ST.%20ASAPH


QUIZ ANSWER # 157

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Last Sunday we had the uppermost part of two commercial buildings in Rhyl, photographed a few days before by Yours Truly. In each case, the question: What is the name of the business underneath?


A:

The answer: ProCare Wales Ltd.
This is a privately-owned home care (home helps) agency managed by Helen Shepherd at Kinmel Place, 54-56 Kinmel Street:

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B:


The answer: 
Bonmarché.

Ladies' clothes shop at 17-21 High Street, one of more than 380 branches. The fancy name translates from French rather disappointingly as 'cheap'.

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With correct answers to A and B to score 1 win: Richard & Ceri Swinney, Sue Handley, Jane Shuttle, The Great Gareth and 
 arriving back from Scotland just in time  Dilys Bagnall.

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While on the subject of High Street, let me run some old adverts up the flagpole to see if any of you salute.
These are from Rhyl Football Club (Rhyl A.F.C. Ltd.) programmes from late '70s/early '80s when the team was in Cheshire League and Welsh League (North).
Click on an advert to read small print.


The following references are added here for indexing purposes: Crossleys jewellers, Northern Goldsmiths, Jones Beardmore, North Wales travel agency, Astra Buildings, Regency gifts, Richard rentals, Tackle Trophies.

Benloy Stores would be Benny Lloyd. Does anybody remember what number in High Street his shop was?

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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

See my Rhyl videos on YouTube:
Only the videos marked RhylTime are mine!

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QUIZ QUESTION # 158

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Once again we have the uppermost part of two commercial buildings in Rhyl, photographed a few days ago by Yours Truly. In each case
The question is: What is the name of the business underneath?

A:

B:

You need correct answers to A and B to score 1 win.

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You have until the end of Saturday 8th October 2016 to send your entry. The result will appear on this blog next day around noon.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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BUILDING FOR SUCCESS

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Today Plaid Cymru the Party of Wales launched a paper on the National Infrastructure Commission for Wales (NICW). Establishing this body was an important part of an agreement with Labour in May 2016.

Adam Price, Plaid's Shadow Minister for Finance & Economy, believes NICW has the potential to transform the Welsh economy by providing money to build new schools, roads, hospitals and improving broadband, thereby creating a large number of jobs in all parts of Wales.

Dai Lloyd, Plaid’s Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, says NICW is an innovative model that would allow Welsh Government to raise some £7.5 billion over ten years to invest in such projects. Over the long term it could reduce the economic gap between Wales and the rest of the UK.


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FUN ON THE CUSP

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Above is an aerial photo dated 1949 showing Marine Lake Fun Fair in the background and the plot of land that would become Ocean Beach Fun Fair in the foreground.

In the 1930s the Ocean Beach site had been bought by Albert Barnes, Managing Director of Rhyl Amusements Ltd the company that owned the fun fair, for use as the company's coach park and for travelling circuses and exhibitions.

The late Eric Hughes, who became manger of both sites said, "We began moving rides from Marine Lake to Ocean Beach where we had to fill the new site to form a surface level with rest of West Parade.
"We also had to build a retaining wall and extend the site by building decking over the coach park at the rear.
"Marine Lake and Ocean Beach were linked by a walkway parallel to the west side of Sydenham Avenue."
[Later the walkway became known as The Walk - Ed.] 

At the bottomof the photo, on your right with slanted roofs is the Alhambra cafe and dance hall which was destined to become the Ritz Ballroom. The picture shows the fun fair on the cusp of becoming two fun fairs.

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A recent addition to this blog's book list is an A5-size booklet of fourteen arty black-and-white photos by Stephen Clarke titled 'Ocean Beach Rhyl' (published 2014) in a limited edition of 150.  


The booklet contains no text and therefore tells you nothing about Ocean Beach - not even the dates when the photos were taken. It's not that kind of a book, it's more of a mood piece capturing the feel of the fair as it neared the end of its life - on the cusp of extinction you might say.

The longer I live with this book the more I like it. Some of the plates have an end-of-an-era sadness about them, others reflect the mad love of being thrown all over the place by machines. The following is just half of one of the pictures; the ride is The Waltzer:


Stephen if you are reading this, do get in touch to tell us about your other activities in Rhyl. 

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk 

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GOODBYE TO ALL THAT

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This is Rhyl Sun Centre as it looked today, photographed from the car park to your left (west) of the Sun Centre by Yours Truly. Deconstruction of the famous attraction is well under way.

The Sun Centre was an indoor complex of swimming pools created by council with help from European grant aid. The main pool had tropical storm effects, and there were an indoor surfing pool and a kiddies' pool.

There were crazy novelty slides, a big wave machine, and a monorail with carriages travelling at a height round the interior of the complex. At times it had a model 'formula one' racing track, sun tan beds, restaurants and a bar with entertainment.

The Sun Centre was fabulous. Visitors flocked there and spent their money all over town.

We lost the Sun Centre for the same reasons we lost previous council- owned attractions. The novelty wore off, public interest faded, and the maintenance costs rose to an unsustainable level.

New attractions are planned for the site. Meanwhile here are some Sun Centre pictures that have not appeared previously in this blog:





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QUIZ ANSWER # 158

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Last Sunday I posted the uppermost part of two commercial buildings in Rhyl, photographed a few days before by Yours Truly. In each casethe question was: What is the name of the business underneath?

A:

The answer: Quality Solicitors Edward Hughes.
The office is at 29-31 Kinmel Street. Here is the photo in full:


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B:

The answer: Liffy's Cafe.
The premises are at 7 Russell Road. Here is the photo in full, taken on a Sunday afternoon to avoid scaring the customers:

  
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With correct answers to A and B to score 1 win: Jane Shuttle, The Great Gareth, Dilys Bagnall, Sue Handley.

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QUIZ QUESTION # 159

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Above is a photo of a Rhyl character circa 1900 on Foryd Bridge, not the present one but the one before (a toll bridge 1861-1932).
The question: Is she most likely to have been a Fisherwoman, Fortune teller, Nanny or Postwoman?
The correct answer would score 1 win.

Below is an aerial shot taken in the 1920s and blurred deliberately by your crafty blogger:


The question: What is the name of the street marked by red dot?
The correct answer would score 1 win. 

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You have until the end of Saturday 15th October 2016 to send your entry. The result will appear on this blog next day around noon.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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BY-ELECTION COMING UP

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DENBIGHSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
RHYL WEST BY-ELECTION 

Rhyl West comprises the residential area known as the west end plus the town centre. There are 5 candidates: a Conservative, a Labour, two Independents and a Lib Dem.

Rhyl Life's pick of the bunch is Mark Webster an ex-Labour councillor now running as Independent. Unlike the official Labour candidate, Mark actually lives in Rhyl West and knows the ward and its problems well.

Mark has been a community volunteer for many years and managed Rhyl Shopmobility which helped thousands of disabled people and carers. Currently he works for the NHS as a volunteer tutor in primary and community care.

He knows some town centre businesses struggle since we lost a few big name shops. He would try to persuade Denbighshire to make the council's car parks free – at least one day a week.
That might help!

THURSDAY 27th OCTOBER 2016
VOTE FOR MARK WEBSTER
INDEPENDENT

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GRAND TIMES

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After a fire in 1907 at Queen’s Palace entertainment complex (the domed building above) the owning company dissolved having been unable to get a payout from the insurers.

The fire destroyed completely only the topmost part. The remainder of the complex was soon operating again under a renamed company involving some of the same directors.

The ballroom part on the ground floor became a roller skating rink, and film shows (‘movies’) were introduced there. The theatre part upstairs on the first floor became renamed Grand Theatre.

Here is the front of a Grand Theatre programme from Thursday August 21st 1914, less than a month after the outbreak of WW1:
Click on it to see a clearer version.


. . . the other side . . .


Details of the play Broadway Jones are too faded to reproduce clearly. Geoffrey Saville appeared in the lead role. The producer Seymour Hicks had played lead himself in other venues including the Leeds Grand:


Eventually the Rhyl building was revamped and in 1926 the Grand Theatre on the first floor was renamed Queen's Theatre, and the skating rink on the ground floor reverted to use for dancing under the name Queens Ballroom.

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The following Rhyl advertisers are added here for indexing purposes:
Goldstraw, Wedgwood House, Dunning, Rhyl Journal, Garson Allen, Hubbards, Knutsford House, Madame Le Vere, Marlborough Hotel, Queens Hotel, F Thomas cycles, Ben Glass, Arcade Bazaar, E Robins, Foulkes Bar, Sussex Cafe, York House, Leinster House, Ferry Hotel, Hazel Grove House, Ferns apartments, Ivy House, Truscott.
X L Seed Co, Arnolds, Chester House, Geo J Mason, Hodges Chatsworth Cafe, Twillrane, Wadsworths, SPQR Stores, Philip Thomas, Avondale Restaurant, Marine Lake Fun Fair, Charlton boarding, Fells Bazaar, White Lion Hotel, Archie Wood.
Robins, J H Ellis, Owens butchers, Griffiths baker, E Beech, H Wilcock, Ernest R Clarke, Star Supply Stores, C H J E Lamb, J A Smalley.

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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

Don't forget my YouTube channel featuring Rhyl videos and slideshows. The channel is named RhylTime. Click here to see RhylTime's Top Ten:

Only YouTube items labelled RhylTime are mine.

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BY-ELECTION COMING UP

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DENBIGHSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
RHYL WEST BY-ELECTION 

Rhyl West comprises the residential area known as the west end plus the town centre. There are 5 candidates: a Conservative, a Labour, two Independents and a Lib Dem.

Rhyl Life's pick of the bunch is Mark Webster an ex-Labour councillor now running as Independent. Unlike the official Labour candidate, Mark actually lives in Rhyl West and knows the ward and its problems well.

Mark has been a community volunteer for many years and managed Rhyl Shopmobility which helped thousands of disabled people and carers. Currently he works for the NHS as a volunteer tutor in primary and community care.

He knows some town centre businesses are struggling since we lost a few big name shops. So he would try to persuade Denbighshire to make the council's car parks free – at least one day a week.
That might help!

THURSDAY 27th OCTOBER 2016
VOTE FOR MARK WEBSTER
INDEPENDENT

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ANNUAL CONFERENCE

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Plaid Cymru's annual conference is to be held here in Denbighshire, at Llangollen Pavilion (shown above). The conference is on Friday and Saturday, 21st and 22nd October. 


The government's EU shambles is bound to be a major point of debate. Plaid's position is that leaving the EU would be extremely damaging to the Welsh economy and endanger a great many jobs.


If we are to be dragged out by circumstance, at least Plaid will be on the alert to see that Wales comes away with the best possible deal.


I am pleased to note that there will be a Scottish National Party guest speaker. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland need to be even more vigilant than usual to see that England does not have all its own way at this critical time.


Incidentally have you heard about Undeb Credyd Plaid Cymru / Plaid Cymru Credit Union? You can get information by telephoning 029 2049 1888 or email: post@ucpccu.org


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SHUFFLING THE PACK

Changes have been proposed that would reduce the total number of Westminster MPs and make constituencies more even in size in terms of population.

At present Wales has 40 MPs. This would reduce to just 29, losing us 11 seats (Conservatives would lose 4, Labour would lose 7).

Rhyl is currently in the Vale of Clwyd constituency. Parts of this and parts of Delyn would be combined to create a brand new constituency named Flint and Rhuddlan.

Flint and Rhuddlanwould comprise Bagillt, Brynford, Caerwys, Cilcain, Dyserth, Ffynnongroyw, Flint, Greenfield, Gronant, Gwernaffield, Halkyn, Holywell, Mostyn, Northop, Prestatyn, Rhuddlan, Rhyl, Trelawnyd & Gwaenysgor, and Whitford.

The runes predict that this would be a likely Labour seat so I hope our present MP James Davies (Conservative) would be parachuted to a safer place where he could continue his career.

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QUIZ ANSWER # 159

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Last Sunday I posted the above image of a Rhyl character circa 1900 on Foryd Bridge, not the present one but the one before (a toll bridge 1861-1932). The question: Is she most likely to have been a Fisherwoman, Fortune teller, Nanny or Postwoman?
The answer: Fortune teller.
I lifted the image shamelessly from Philip Lloyd's excellent book 'Glorious Rhyl' published 2002.
Of the figure in question, Philip says: "The late Eric Foulkes who gave me this and many other lantern slides believed that she was part of Rhyl's c.1900 holiday 'scene', telling fortunes with the aid of a canary which selected cards in its beak."

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Also I posted the following aerial shot which had been taken in the 1920s and was blurred deliberately. The question: What is the name of the street marked by red dot?


The answer: High Street.
Here is the restored picture. The white car has just crossed the Alexandra Bridge aka Vale Road Bridge:


The date I have been given for this is 1923 so the scene may have been part of the build-up to the ceremonial opening of the present coast road from Rhyl to Prestatyn.

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Scoring 1 win for the Fortune teller and/or 1 win for High Street: Dilys Bagnall 2, The Great Gareth 2, Sue Handley 1, Jane Shuttle 2, John E. Davies 1.

John Davies is a new player. He says, "I was very pleased that I got High Street right first time of looking.
"I am a Rhyl lad born and bred and our family home was at Morfa, 60 Warren Road, which my paternal grandparents purchased new in the 1920's. I am an only son with four younger sisters, Lesley, Margaret, Janet and Kathleen.
"The latter two still live in Rhyl and the other two live down south. You featured the Close where Janet lives on Rhyl Life a few months ago with a blanked street name - Eleri Close.
" I met my wife of almost 50 years in 1967 at The Schooner pub when she was holidaying with a friend in Towyn. We now live about 52 miles away in Warrington with our family.
"My grandfather was a steam locomotive driver and was on the rails for 49 years. He drove the Royal Train when George V and the present Queen and her sister Princess Margaret were with him on a visit to North Wales in the 1930s.
"He was the first driver to take the controls of the Welsh Dragon in 1951 at Rhyl and was seen off by ladies in Welsh National costume. The train was met at Llandudno by dignitaries including comedian Cyril Fletcher."

[The Welsh Dragon was a push-pull train that went back and forth between Rhyl and Llandudno in 1950s & '60s. John is going to send some pix of the first day - Ed.]

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QUIZ QUESTION # 160

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The final salvo in this second series of the quiz comprises eight questions.

1. Below is a photo taken not many years ago. The building's name has been obscured by black dots.
The question: What is the missing name?


2. Below is a group of Edwardian gentlemen and a lady outside a Rhyl building.
The question: What is the name of the building?


3. Below is a shot taken in January this year. On nearest side is The Bike Hub, on far side is The Harbour Hub Cafe.
The question: What is the building inbetween used for?


4. Below is a photo of unknown date taken in the London Transport area.
The question: What has it got to do with Rhyl?


Click on any picture to see a bigger version.


5. Above is a part of a photo of unknown date, obviously not recent.
The question: Where in Rhyl was it taken?


6. Above is a shot taken this year with a place name blanked out.
The question: What is the missing name?


7. Above is an image of a Crosville bus loading in High Street.
The question: Would the nearest date be 1930, 1940, 1950 or 1960?


8. The above is part of a photograph taken this year.
The question: Where in Rhyl would you see this construction?

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You would score 1 win for each correct answer, plus 2 extra wins for getting all 8 right.

You have until the end of Saturday 22nd October 2016 to send your entry. The result will appear on this blog next day around noon.

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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BY-ELECTION COMING UP

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DENBIGHSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
RHYL WEST BY-ELECTION 

Rhyl West comprises the residential area known as the west end plus the town centre. There are 5 candidates: a Conservative, a Labour, two Independents and a Lib Dem.

Rhyl Life's pick of the bunch is Mark Webster an ex-Labour councillor now running as Independent. Unlike the official Labour candidate, Mark actually lives in Rhyl West and knows the ward and its problems well.

Mark has been a community volunteer for many years and managed Rhyl Shopmobility which helped thousands of disabled people and carers. Currently he works for the NHS as a volunteer tutor in primary and community care.

He knows some town centre businesses are struggling since we lost a few big name shops. So he would try to persuade Denbighshire to make the council's car parks free – at least one day a week.
That might help!

THURSDAY 27th OCTOBER 2016
VOTE FOR MARK WEBSTER
INDEPENDENT

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TOWYN TOPUP

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Towyn is part of the postal district of Abergele but shares a community council with Kinmel Bay; the combined population is about 8,000.

Art enthusiasts may like this picture titled 'The Sands of Towyn, North Wales' by B.W. Leader A.R.A. (Associate of the Royal Academy):


Benjamin Williams Leader (1831-1923) was a landscape artist from the English midlands; he spent quite a lot of time in North Wales. I like the way he turned his name around from Benjamin Leader Williams so as not to disappear in a tide of Williamses.

The following postcard is undated, looks to be 1930s. Below it is a detail from the big picture.



Here is another card; this one is postmarked 1955. It carries a message from Rose to her Aunt, Mrs M. Williams of Harborne, Birmingham:



Until recently I had not heard of Howison's Holiday Camp, Towyn, as featured on the multiview card below.


Howison's was a forerunner of the present Whitehouse Leisure Park:
http://www.whitehouseleisurepark.com/

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KINMEL BAY TOPUP

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According to Wikipedia, Kinmel Bay is a suburb of Rhyl. Kinmel Bay was originally called Foryd, and Foryd was the name of its former railway station.


The following Kinmel Bay oddity is an advert inviting investment in a poultry farm which may or may not have existed.



The card below is captioned The Camping Fields, Kinmel Bay, and is believed to be from late 1930s/early 1940s:


The following beach shot may be late 1940s/early 1950s. I like the windsock and would love to know what was written on it:



Here is Sunnyvale Camp's swimming pool on a card postmarked 1955 from Pat to her workmates I mean colleagues at the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance in Coventry:



Click on any image to see a bigger version.

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QUIZ ANSWER # 160

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Quiz Question # 160 was the last in this second series of the quiz. It comprised the following eight questions:

1. Below is a photo taken not many years ago. The building's name has been obscured by black dots.
The question: What is the missing name?


2. Below is a group of Edwardian gentlemen and a lady outside a Rhyl building.
The question: What is the name of the building?


3. Below is a shot taken in January this year. On nearest side is The Bike Hub, on far side is The Harbour Hub Cafe.
The question: What is the building inbetween used for?


4. Below is a photo of unknown date taken in the London Transport area.
The question: What has it got to do with Rhyl?


Click on any picture to see a bigger version.


5. Above is a part of a photo of unknown date, obviously not recent.
The question: Where in Rhyl was it taken?


6. Above is a shot taken this year with a place name blanked out.
The question: What is the missing name?


7. Above is an image of a Crosville bus loading in High Street.
The question: Would the nearest date be 1930, 1940, 1950 or 1960?


8. The above is part of a photograph taken this year.
The question: Where in Rhyl would you see this construction?

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HERE ARE THE ANSWERS:

1.  The Abbey Vaults (in Abbey Street). Photo supplied by Dave Williams. Thanks Dave!

2.  The original Rhyl Pavilion. Photo was taken in 1908 on opening day. Here is the full picture; the gent in the light-coloured trilby hat would be Lord Mostyn, L.N.V. Lloyd-Mostyn the 3rd Baron Mostyn (1856-1929):

   
3.  Harbour Master. Behind the black dots are signs saying Harbwr Feistr/Harbour Master. Photo taken in January 2016 by Fred Burns.

4.  The white coach belonged to Brookes Bros of Rhyl. It is a Leyland Lioness with registration number DM6228.

5.  Grange Court (near Rhyl High School).

6.  The Conservatory, Botanical Gardens. Here is the picture complete with its caption:


7.  1950. The image of a bus loading in High Street is an amateur shot dated 1950.
   
8.  Westbourne Avenue. Here's a wider view of the construction:


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Scoring 1 win for each correct answer plus 2 wins for getting all 8 right:
Jane Shuttle 10, The Great Gareth 10, Dilys Bagnall 5, Richard & Ceri Swinney 10, Sue Handley 4.

SOON THERE WILL BE A FEATURE ON THE REGULAR PLAYERS.

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